YoRHa No2 vs YoRHa No2 Type B (2B)

Warning: Possible spoilers and semi-accurate speculation may exist in this post.

Edit: 2016.04.19

With the announcement of the two new characters 9S and A2 at the NieR Music Concert & Talk Live, I have begun to restructure my initial speculation regarding No2 from the YoRHa play. Here’s the breakdown:

  • I still think No2 from the stage play is *alive* and will play a role in Automata.
  • I no longer think that 2B is directly or figuratively No2. I think she will be an upgraded No2 model that comprises both of the now defunct YoRHa “Attacker” and “Gunner” designations.
  • However, with the reveal of A2, there are some interesting things that might connect her more closely to actually being No2.
    • She is an older android who has seen her fair share of battle on the surface of the planet.
    • She was an Attacker type YoRHa android, but by this time, these particular types have been decommissioned and are no longer in active duty. Any remaining androids that may still be intact and have been recalled generally become experimental units to develop new technology for future YoRHa models. This is how A2 could have been used as a prototype to create then next model of androids like 2B and 9S.
    • She has some major issues PSTD type issues related to her past and must learn to channel the anger she feels because of those experiences.
    • Much of her frame has been damaged, with the most damage stretching from her chest and outward to her limbs. The majority of her head, arms and legs are relatively undamaged. This makes me believe that the bomb affixed to her heart might have partially exploded, causing massive damage to her frame. Still, the damage could merely be the result of engaging the Bio-machines in battle for many years. The bomb could still be sleeping within her…
  • How this connects with No2’s past looks like this:
    • Before No2’s first mission, she met and spoke briefly with her idol: Seed.
      Seed was an experimental android that was used to develop new weapons and armor–which the first series of YoRHa androids, including No2, were with. As depicted in the stage play, the Pearl Harbor Mission in 11941 was the first time the YoRHa androids were deployed.
    • Prior to becoming an experimental unit, Seed was also deployed multiple times to the surface of the planet and was one of the few androids who actually met *real* humans.
    • This progression from ‘deployed android used in multiple missions’ to ‘decommissioned tool to develop new androids’ is extremely important as it shows the standard “life cycle” of a typical YoRHa android if they survive the missions they’re sent on.
    • Seed was destroyed during an experiment that she willingly participated in because she wanted to protect No2. It could be that Seed was the prototype used to create No2 and her sisters, just as A2 is the prototype used to create 2B and 9S.
    • This would wrap up No2’s story very nicely, give it a very neat feeling of completing the cycle, and it continues the “bloodline” to promote evolution.
      Seed –> No2 –> 2B.
  • A little bit of an aside regarding why 2B’s series of YoRHa androids are forbidden from expressing emotion is because that is what essentially doomed the 126th Descent Mission aka the Pearl Harbor Mission (plot in the Stage Play). It doesn’t seem possible for the androids to turn off this function completely, but they are somewhat able to control or at least suppress it.
  • And that leads to another important question: WHY DO ANDROIDS FEEL? If emotion is such a devastating weakness that can jeopardise their missions, then why are they programmed with that function in the first place? Why can’t it be switched off? What is its purpose? I’ve speculated this a little in the original post here, but I think the YoRHa androids are not your typical intelligent, artificial lifeforms… they are not merely robots programmed to emulate human emotion and memory… but are independently mobile units of the master computer system that housed the Gestalt information… Of course, that information is all that’s left of humanity when it was still whole. It could be that the “soul” that houses EMOTION and PERSONAL HISTORY and MEMORY in every YoRHa android was installed from the Gestalt data. YoRHa = humanity.
  • We know that the S in the name 9S stands for “Scanner“. This was a designated type that was in service in the YoRHa Stage Play; however, the Attacker and Gunner types have since been discontinued. Given the above speculation that A2 = No2 from the Stage Play plus No2 was an Attacker type… then it is most likely that the A in A2 is “Attacker“. In an interview with Yoko Taro, he states that the B in 2B‘s name stands for “Battler“, which makes sense if this model series is an all-round fighter that is able to use a multitude of weapons.

Yoko Taro had stated in a previous interview with Hooked that 2B is *not* No2 from the YoRHa stage play… But, having another look at the script, I came across this line that gave me chills.

YoRHa Play - Scene 9 - 4129-jpgNo4: Like, if you lose your memory and become a different person than who you used to be, that’s a way to continue on living, right?

This line is said in context about the androids fearing death. Although the androids are not “alive”, they are still very frightful of “everything fading away” when they’re destroyed. Likewise, their personality routines are heavily based on their pre-programmed “false memories”. For example, No2 remembers living a peaceful life with her grandmother in the country. They comment that should they lose their memory, they would essentially become a new individual.

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Interview with Yoko Taro and Saito Yosuke by Hooked

This is a pretty amazing interview with both Yoko Taro and Saito Yosuke. The intro and outro are conducted in German, but the actual interview is in English.

The part that I found the most amazing, if not shocking, was the fact that 2B is *not* the same character as No2 that appears in the YoRHa stage play! *mindblown* But, I was starting to lean toward that since her character and some parts of her design didn’t seem to match up.

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No2’s final stance. Photo by Tantei File.

That being said, Yoko Taro is often known to say one thing and yet somehow contradict himself in the same sentence. It could be that this *is* the same character that has undergone some major changes to completely alter her mind/personality.

At any rate, I suppose it would be best to separate my own feelings for the YoRHa girls that appeared in the stage play from this new game that seems sooooooo heavily based on it.

Please stop reading here to avoid further speculation…

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